False teachers condemned
Email response to a church member by the name Nimmi
How do you want me to be positive in my emails when such horrible things occur?
It is you who is fallen after being misled by your bible talk and church leaders whom you entrusted yourself to. I do not accuse God’s people but condemn those who preach the ungodly and harmful gospel. I forgive everyone for any wrong they have done to me and I do not hate anyone. Neither I am fallen nor a devil’s messenger. Instead, I am writing you the truth. Have I become a devil messenger by writing you the truth? Devil is the father of lies and there is no truth in him. If I am wrong in some of my statements or observations, which is possible, a recipient of my emails can always write back to me and I will reevaluate. As of now, I did not receive any objections except the few on which I have already responded publicly.
Paul wrote to the Galatians that if any person, even an angel from heaven, or even Paul himself, were to preach a gospel contrary to the one they had first heard and received, let him be accursed:
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. — Galatians 1:8–9
Bible talk and church leaders preach a gospel which is contrary to the gospel of Christ. Nikki and her company are of the same mind with church leaders. Alex, Nash, Mark Lutz, Ben ane Mark Wellz can also be considered part of Nikki’s company because they are of the same mind with church leaders. Just like Mark Luz and Tosin stated once in our personal conversation that Jesus Christ is in heaven but church leaders are on earth, so they have to obey church leaders.
You do not follow the gospel of Christ. You follow the gospel of your bible talk and church leaders as well as Nikki and her company.
- They forbid people marriage.
Bible talk and church leaders as well as Nikki and her company preach that a person only allowed to marry a member of the same organization. They twist the following scripture to support their harmful doctrine:
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? — 2 Corinthians 6:14
By preaching about the same organization marriage, they assume that the only believers in the whole world are the members of their organization but other people are not, but they also say that they are not the only church in the world and there are many others. What a hypocrisy! If they are not the only church in the world and there are many others, why do they request to get married only within the same community?
When a believer wants to get married with someone not affiliated with their organization, they put a barriers for him or her. They request disciples of Christ to introduce his partner to a church leader for marriage approval. Believers who got married without church leader’s approval are subject to persecution. Church leaders call this person for a private meeting and charge him or her with the rebellious attitude and disobedience to church leaders with further consequences for the disciple. They convince the person that rebellion against church leaders is a sin. They use the following Scripture, pretending to be the leaders when they are not. They mislead people rather than lead.
Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you. — Hebrew 13:17
My believing friend Satheesh was not affiliated with the organization but was interested to marry Sofia. Jacob questioned me, why do I introduce Satheesh to Sofia, since he is not a member of the organization? Jacob requested me for him to speak to Satheesh, even though it was not required for him to intervene at all. Even if a partner affiliated with the organization, disciples of Christ still need to obtain church leader’s approval prior to proposing to get married.
Quite often church leaders reject the couple’s marriage under the assumption that this couple is not fit for each other. Disciples need to wait for ages again when another member of the same organization will propose them assuming that the member is definitely a man or woman of God, but other believer is not worthy to consider.
When I proposed Angie without church leader’s approval, I was charged with the rebellious attitude. According to Jacob [church leader], I had to wait for some more time, but I did not want to wait and married Angie. As a result of this harmful doctrine, many woman are unable to get married when they are still young. They have no choice but choose anyone interested in them, even when a person is older in age, because they realize they are not that young anymore.
The church leaders request them to pick a “special” brother or sister in Christ and pray for this particular person. Bible talk and church leaders promise disciples that God might open the heart of the person, and this particular person will finally like him or her. They pray for years and years but seldom any result. Is God more kind to unbelievers than to believers? No, it’s not God who is not answering the prayers, but it’s an ungodly and harmful doctrine preached by church leaders and by those of the same mind, particularly Nikki and her people.
Those who got married to a person out of the organization, even to a believer, are judged and looked down at. Apostle Paul has written about such people:
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, who forbid marriage… -1 Timothy 4:1–3
Bible talk and church leaders as well as Nikki and her company — let them all be accursed for forbidding marriage.
2. They forbid believers to speak publicly.
They don’t allow to correct them in front of others when they utter error concerning the Lord. Bible talk and church leaders as well as Nikki and her company forbid believers to speak publicly without church leader’s approval. By doing this, they eliminate Holy Spirit, for Holy Spirit is free by nature:
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Corinthians 3:17
They also tolerate different type of false teachings by forbidding correcting speaker’s error publicly. According to them, the interrupting of speaker can create havoc or chaos. According to Mark Luz, the emails create chaos as well. According to John Oakes, anyone who wants to correct error of a speaker, must only approach the person privately. Jeshuani even said that interrupting a speaker is an act of disrespect. Arun also written me that it is not allowed to interrupt a speaker because the hotel booked for a limited time only:
And you can certainly raise your questions after the sermon and seek clarifications to your questions. It just doesn’t make sense to do this in the midst of a sermon as the discussion may turn to a debate with no end in sight and we have the hall booked for only 1.5 hours or so, bro. If however, the preacher did say something wrong, it can always be corrected in the next sermon or in Bible Talks. Bro, try not to compare today with over 2000 years ago. A lot has changed in terms of time management, laws, public preaching etc. since then. We get a little time to listen to the Word of God in today’s busy world and we ought to make the best of it and be grateful that we even have it in this foreign land. — Arun Naidu
What is more important, the money paid for the hotel booking or truth spoken publicly? Truth is more important because, as Jesus said, the truth will set you free. What will the truth set you free from? The truth will set you free from any false teachings, practices and assumptions about God. As a result, you will know God, and this is the way to God’s kingdom. Arun and the rest of bible talk and church leaders are concerned more about the money they pay for the hotel rather than people knowing the truth. Jeshuani, a church member, imitates some freedom by often crying out during the church leader’s sermon, “Preach, bro!”, — but this just an imitation of the freedom. He barely cries out anything else, apart from “Com-on, bro” and “Amen”.
As a result of this false gospel they preach, the church leaders and appointed by them speakers utter errors concerning the Lord, spreading false teachings, and no one even allowed to publicly speak against it.
For the fool speaks folly, and his heart is busy with iniquity, to practice ungodliness, to utter error concerning the LORD, to leave the craving of the hungry unsatisfied, and to deprive the thirsty of drink. -Isaiah 32:6
Bible talk and church leaders, Nikki and her company — let them all be accursed for uttering errors concerning the Lord, forbidding others to speak publicly.
3. They use tithes and contributions for group’s use instead of helping the poor and needy.
Bible talk and church leaders as well as Nikki and her company preach that the tithes and contributions must be collected regularly and spent to pay for hotel rent, buying food for their house meetings, constructing church buildings abroad and pay for retreats in hotels instead of using the money to help the poor. According to them, believers can help the poor only after they gave their tithes and contributions to church leaders. The truth is that church leaders are not the representatives of God but the poor people are. The tithes must be given to the poor people, not to the church leaders. Church leaders are not the priests, so they have no right to collect money from believers. There is no temple but we are the temple. This scripture clearly shows that by providing to the poor, believers actually give to God:
And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ -Matthew 25:40–43
The contribution is different to tithes. If tithes must be given regularly to the poor, contributions are collected only when there is a need to send a relief to believers:
For Macedonia and Achaia have been pleased to make some contribution for the poor among the saints at Jerusalem. — Romans 15:26
Contributions as well as tithes must not be spent for personal needs of the group such as hotel rent, food and other expenses. As a result of this ungodly doctrine, poor and needy do not receive what they ought to receive. Church leaders even collect Special Contribution and spend it not for food but for building temples abroad. For example, they have sent money to believers in Sudan, Yemen and Pakistan for construction of church buildings. God does not live in temples built by human hands. They should have better sent them some money for food. Bible talk and church leaders as well as Nikki and her company — let them all be accursed for using tithes and contributions for their own group and not helping poor and needy.
They also preach many other errors concerning the Lord, misleading believers and turning them away from God:
Woe to you lawyers! For you have taken away the key of knowledge. You did not enter yourselves, and you hindered those who were entering. — Luke 11:52
The Bible talk and church leaders are the Pharisees and teachers of the law of our time, so the scripture is clear:
Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.
